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T O P I C R E V I E WCynnaredIt seems like the tides are turning with my stance on marraige - I never believed in it and never thought a piece of paper is needed to show a commitment. I have never looked at the other side of the coin - which is odd cause usually I like to know both sides of the coin and stay neutral.Maybe it was the Nov 25th eclipse that touched my Venus in Pisces square Neptune/Jupiter square that triggered things off and maybe I have been holding off from making my relationship deeper with marriage.Hard to say. NativelyJoan Spend your life with your one and only without the pressures of our rigid conventionally suffocating society. You can't document love you can only allow it!LEXXExcept for legal reasons such as HIPPA and all......rapidly losing my liking for the concept/practice.Once most men think you are theirs completely,they do not treat you as well from then on.THappily unmarried and don't plan on getting married. Nothing against happily married people though. I think it's great. They actually get me teary eyed sometimes. I don't want what they have, but I think it's beautiful to see two people make it work. TIt's the love behind it. At a weddiing you can feel that...then there are people who are doing it because they think that's what they are supposed to do at their age or whatever....It's nice when you witness a union of two people who are truly in love. I'm not a sappy person at all, but do get teary on the rare occasion I get to see true love in bloom or motion. PixieJaneMarriage has many benefits, such as getting on your partner's insurance, getting partner's bennies, social security bennies, tax bennies, and more. (Of course the wrong partner could screw over your credit rating and finances and make you liable for bills, too...)It's also good if your partner is hospitalized as it allows you to see them when you otherwise not be able to and to make medical decisions and sign for them. Should one of you be imprisoned, then sometimes only a spouse can see the imprisoned beside a lawyer. (And btw, you don't have to do anything wrong to be imprisoned.)Of course these benefits (and more) often don't belong to gays in domestic partnerships, especially if they leave the state they got semi-married in. However, many states allow first cousins to marry and they do get full bennies with full recognition in other states, even those that don't allow first cousins to marry. ElizabethOI don't really care about marriage. I'm already in one as far as I'm concerned. He even bought me a cheap little old ring I fell in love with online so I can wear it on my hand to show that I'm his. I personally think it's cute because, as my favorite ex-boss once said, "it ain't that deep." I am his... and he his mine. We are each others. I DO care about my wedding. I go back and forth because I'm very frugal, but I'm pretty sure my Libra Moon is going ALL OUT. It is going to be RIDICULOUS. Like PEACOCKS walking around a private estate during a cherry blossom ceremony RIDICULOUS. /sighRegardesPlatero t.RegardesPlatero .Cynnared quote:Originally posted by PixieJane:Marriage has many benefits, such as getting on your partner's insurance, getting partner's bennies, social security bennies, tax bennies, and more. (Of course the wrong partner could screw over your credit rating and finances and make you liable for bills, too...)It's also good if your partner is hospitalized as it allows you to see them when you otherwise not be able to and to make medical decisions and sign for them. Should one of you be imprisoned, then sometimes only a spouse can see the imprisoned beside a lawyer. (And btw, you don't have to do anything wrong to be imprisoned.)Of course these benefits (and more) often don't belong to gays in domestic partnerships, especially if they leave the state they got semi-married in. However, many states allow first cousins to marry and they do get full bennies with full recognition in other states, even those that don't allow first cousins to marry. That is the biggest clincher for me - get stuck with his debt. If I didn't put myself in debt, then I had better not be paying for another's debt. If that made sense......My partner owes several thousand on a line of credit, that I wouldn't want to haunt me. Myself, I'm not in debt and only owe the monthly bills. Fondue KnightI finally have the right to get married in my state. However, my Moon square Uranus has other ideas on that whole matrimony thing. lechienmarriage is tricky for me. marriage = visa. i'm not planning to go back to the country where i was born, i almost know no one there and i speak the language poorly, and i don't understand the culture and people there. i'm the same as a foreigner and they think i'm foreign anyway. it's fine for sightseeing, but not to live.so i am always, legally foreign wherever i go. i need to have a visa to stay anywhere. when i am in a relationship, it's always plagued by the back thought "if he really loves me he'll marry me". and so far it has destroyed every relationship. probably not only because of this, but it dampened the romance to a certain degree every time. i feel disgusted that i cannot just have a light-hearted sweet romance. otherwise marriage would not mean much to me. if i love someone, i stay with him. it's simple. but international laws don't like lovers being together just because they want to, so whatever! NativelyJoan quote:Originally posted by PixieJane:Marriage has many benefits, such as getting on your partner's insurance, getting partner's bennies, social security bennies, tax bennies, and more. (Of course the wrong partner could screw over your credit rating and finances and make you liable for bills, too...)It's funny because the legal and religious "benefits" are the exact reasons to why I don't support contractual unions/marriages. And other reasons I'm disgusted by the practice of marriage are related to perpetuating false illusions, commercialism, materialism, conventionalism and propaganda. I'm a lover through and through but I don't support the exploitation of love in favor of profit and systematization in order to organize the masses. Classifying and organizing the masses makes it easier to control them, as if people need to be controlled by a superior power (church or central government). Marriages are a legal and religious practice and a very lucrative market in the economy, profit, profit, profit!starfoxMarry in whatever way you like.jump a broomstick hand in hand if needs be.Its a commitment thing. "I promise to try and treat you well" & "I promise to try and treat you well too." ElizabethO quote:Originally posted by RegardesPlatero: LMAO I have a Libra sun, Cancer moon (opposite of your Cancer sun, Libra moon) and I can relate to you about the money thing. My Cancer moon keeps my bank account alive and spending in-check, but my Libra sun LOVES pretty things. So, yeah, you're not alone out there ;-)I do think that it's really adorable that he bought you a little ring to wear. That literally made me say "awwww". It was $9.99 lol. Pretty, romantic, and affordable! My three favorite things. quote:Originally posted by Fondue Knight:I finally have the right to get married in my state. However, my Moon square Uranus has other ideas on that whole matrimony thing. WHOO! Finally, progress. Still doesn't stop you from being married in your heart CynnaredHelpless romantic Venus in Pisces wants a fairy tales wedding with her prince sweeping her up on this white horse riding off into the sunset.Sun opposite Uranus will have nothing of that and Gemini Rising thinks that is too sappy..way too emotional, but my Cancer moon loves the sentiment of it allGeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I have never looked at the other side of the coin - which is odd cause usually I like to know both sides of the coin and stay neutral.
Maybe it was the Nov 25th eclipse that touched my Venus in Pisces square Neptune/Jupiter square that triggered things off and maybe I have been holding off from making my relationship deeper with marriage.
Hard to say.
Spend your life with your one and only without the pressures of our rigid conventionally suffocating society. You can't document love you can only allow it!
Nothing against happily married people though. I think it's great. They actually get me teary eyed sometimes. I don't want what they have, but I think it's beautiful to see two people make it work.
It's nice when you witness a union of two people who are truly in love. I'm not a sappy person at all, but do get teary on the rare occasion I get to see true love in bloom or motion.
It's also good if your partner is hospitalized as it allows you to see them when you otherwise not be able to and to make medical decisions and sign for them.
Should one of you be imprisoned, then sometimes only a spouse can see the imprisoned beside a lawyer. (And btw, you don't have to do anything wrong to be imprisoned.)
Of course these benefits (and more) often don't belong to gays in domestic partnerships, especially if they leave the state they got semi-married in. However, many states allow first cousins to marry and they do get full bennies with full recognition in other states, even those that don't allow first cousins to marry.
I DO care about my wedding. I go back and forth because I'm very frugal, but I'm pretty sure my Libra Moon is going ALL OUT. It is going to be RIDICULOUS. Like PEACOCKS walking around a private estate during a cherry blossom ceremony RIDICULOUS. /sigh
quote:Originally posted by PixieJane:Marriage has many benefits, such as getting on your partner's insurance, getting partner's bennies, social security bennies, tax bennies, and more. (Of course the wrong partner could screw over your credit rating and finances and make you liable for bills, too...)It's also good if your partner is hospitalized as it allows you to see them when you otherwise not be able to and to make medical decisions and sign for them. Should one of you be imprisoned, then sometimes only a spouse can see the imprisoned beside a lawyer. (And btw, you don't have to do anything wrong to be imprisoned.)Of course these benefits (and more) often don't belong to gays in domestic partnerships, especially if they leave the state they got semi-married in. However, many states allow first cousins to marry and they do get full bennies with full recognition in other states, even those that don't allow first cousins to marry.
That is the biggest clincher for me - get stuck with his debt. If I didn't put myself in debt, then I had better not be paying for another's debt. If that made sense......My partner owes several thousand on a line of credit, that I wouldn't want to haunt me. Myself, I'm not in debt and only owe the monthly bills.
so i am always, legally foreign wherever i go. i need to have a visa to stay anywhere. when i am in a relationship, it's always plagued by the back thought "if he really loves me he'll marry me". and so far it has destroyed every relationship. probably not only because of this, but it dampened the romance to a certain degree every time. i feel disgusted that i cannot just have a light-hearted sweet romance.
otherwise marriage would not mean much to me. if i love someone, i stay with him. it's simple. but international laws don't like lovers being together just because they want to, so whatever!
quote:Originally posted by PixieJane:Marriage has many benefits, such as getting on your partner's insurance, getting partner's bennies, social security bennies, tax bennies, and more. (Of course the wrong partner could screw over your credit rating and finances and make you liable for bills, too...)
It's funny because the legal and religious "benefits" are the exact reasons to why I don't support contractual unions/marriages. And other reasons I'm disgusted by the practice of marriage are related to perpetuating false illusions, commercialism, materialism, conventionalism and propaganda.
I'm a lover through and through but I don't support the exploitation of love in favor of profit and systematization in order to organize the masses. Classifying and organizing the masses makes it easier to control them, as if people need to be controlled by a superior power (church or central government). Marriages are a legal and religious practice and a very lucrative market in the economy, profit, profit, profit!
Its a commitment thing. "I promise to try and treat you well" & "I promise to try and treat you well too."
quote:Originally posted by RegardesPlatero: LMAO I have a Libra sun, Cancer moon (opposite of your Cancer sun, Libra moon) and I can relate to you about the money thing. My Cancer moon keeps my bank account alive and spending in-check, but my Libra sun LOVES pretty things. So, yeah, you're not alone out there ;-)I do think that it's really adorable that he bought you a little ring to wear. That literally made me say "awwww".
So, yeah, you're not alone out there ;-)
I do think that it's really adorable that he bought you a little ring to wear. That literally made me say "awwww".
It was $9.99 lol. Pretty, romantic, and affordable! My three favorite things.
quote:Originally posted by Fondue Knight:I finally have the right to get married in my state. However, my Moon square Uranus has other ideas on that whole matrimony thing.
WHOO! Finally, progress. Still doesn't stop you from being married in your heart
Sun opposite Uranus will have nothing of that and Gemini Rising thinks that is too sappy..way too emotional, but my Cancer moon loves the sentiment of it all
Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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